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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2012, 07:59:22 AM »

"Don't you just love the modern day version of Chinese Whispers"

Yes Phil, love it. Canīt believe how topics can get started on one thing and end up on another. The one about Albox by pass is now telling us how much it is to go over the Humber bridge, great!!!  :handshake
 

depends wich chinese you use... some whispers are better than others  ;) as for the merc thefts the manger probably carnt stop it,if its part of a "firm"coz he will probanly end up wich shootgun cartridges or bulletts on his door step at home.... you aint in the UK  citizens this end,things are done diffrently here... hence the amount of fatal shootings over the last 10 years localy.
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2012, 09:04:55 AM »

OMG Tetley, you are a one!!  "Hence the amount of fatal shootings over the last 10 years locally".
Exactly how many fatal shootings have actually taken place locally over the last 10 years?
And, were these innocent bystanders, or simply people who are into major drug/people trafficking/prostitution etc whose demise comes with the territory?
You really do make it sound like cowboy country.
Thankfully most of us know how fortunate we are to live in such a lovely area surrounded by, in the main, wonderful people who have welcomed us with open arms into their communities.
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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2012, 09:12:30 AM »

Hi Nina So sorry to hear about the awful experience your mum had she must be shaken to the core, hope they get the perps, they should chop their hands off. Don't know how they managed to get money out of bank, lets hope you get some back.
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« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2012, 09:51:00 AM »

Hola,

Tesco's, Asda's etc, do have a decent measure of Security staff and store surveillance equipment by the way! I thought there were cameras set up in MankyFlappers!

D Tectiff :wave
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« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2012, 10:14:05 AM »

OMG Tetley, you are a one!!  "Hence the amount of fatal shootings over the last 10 years locally".
Exactly how many fatal shootings have actually taken place locally over the last 10 years?
And, were these innocent bystanders, or simply people who are into major drug/people trafficking/prostitution etc whose demise comes with the territory?
You really do make it sound like cowboy country.
Thankfully most of us know how fortunate we are to live in such a lovely area surrounded by, in the main, wonderful people who have welcomed us with open arms into their communities.

In my experience demise can come with any territory espcialy if people wander into the territory ,befor you start tapping the keyboard i would suggest you do a little bit more  local resarch... as i seid if there is a" firm" of nastys in the area feeding the family the Merc manger may just have to turn a blind eye.
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« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2012, 10:37:57 AM »

"befor you start tapping the keyboard i would suggest you do a little bit more  local resarch.."
Thanks Tetley.  That is exactly what I was trying to do!
As it was you who said "Hence the amount of fatal shootings over the last 10 years locally", you obviously know that number.
Afraid I donīt so I donīt and thatīs why I was asking you.  Do you know what the number is?
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« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2012, 10:52:49 AM »

No comment  :tiphat:
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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2012, 17:27:13 PM »

HEY!!! byrney ! unless you have been here sometime, what Tetley is stating is quite correct!! even a water issue can end up as a shooting AMONGST THE OLD BOYS!!!!! :wave
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« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2012, 18:57:33 PM »

Well Cantabrian, I am absolutely amazed.
I have been here for almost ten years now (seven permanent) and I must have missed in the local press all the fatal shootings to which Tetley and you both refer to.  As I asked before exactly how many fatal shootings have actually taken place, or, is it again urban myth?
I do know that the various gypsy clans (can I call them that without fear of a racism claim?) donīt particularly get on with one another, but I have never known them having a pop at us !! 
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« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2012, 19:05:37 PM »

interesting 5 minutes googling 'Albox, Murders. Shootings'  uncovered nothing much except that a body was discovered in the recycling plant in Albox last March :o  I don't remember that being in the local press
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« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2012, 19:36:18 PM »

Well done awtf - I thought as much.
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« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2012, 19:53:10 PM »

I am on your side Byrney- Scaremongering does none of us any good. Yes, there is the very occasional shooting,be it in Spain or the UK, but not as many as some folk would have us believe. Viva Espana !!    :wave :tiphat:
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« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2012, 20:49:59 PM »

Exactly Zilnor.  I am fed up with all the doom and gloom which is spread by some members of this forum - largely based on inaccurate (or even no) information.  Do people not realise that someone thinking of buying in this area might have a look at the largest ex-pat website in the area before doing so?
Having done so, would you even consider coming to live here?  No, neither would I.  And then everyone wonders why no-one wants to buy here.
Come on folks, whilst continuing to have serious debate, letīs start making some positive noises about the area.
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« Reply #48 on: June 21, 2012, 21:41:08 PM »

interesting 5 minutes googling 'Albox, Murders. Shootings'  uncovered nothing much except that a body was discovered in the recycling plant in Albox last March :o  I don't remember that being in the local press


maybe you ought to be looking for articles on missing people  ;D

Steve knows more than what he is letting on. Perhaps he has been muzzled  ;D



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« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2012, 21:56:53 PM »


maybe you ought to be looking for articles on missing people 

Steve knows more than what he is letting on. Perhaps he has been muzzled 


 :o :o :o you are not suggesting something like this happens to missing forum members are you?

Getting back on topic I do think the Mercadona should at least have security cameras.  I stopped going in Charter when people were having their bags pinched etc.  It is an horrible experience having anything stolen whether from your home or car or having your handbag taken. Many women carry very personal items in their bag or purse that are worthless to a thief.  My sympathy to 'Nina's Mum'
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« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2012, 06:13:39 AM »

there have been a few shootings, one in Albox a good few years where Antonio Molino was paralyzed for life , he was an innocent bystander caught out in a gypsy shootout. On various occasions the police has been called to Gypsy Town as shots have been fired.

And don't forget the Macael Marble Factory Owner who took the lives of two gypsies who were into extortion that was only a few years back
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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2012, 06:26:54 AM »

Thanks Clare.  So "all" the fatal shootings of the last ten years actually boil down to one serious, but non-fatal shooting, "a good few years ago", and a couple of gypsies involved in extortion a few years ago.
Hardly cause for everyone to start wearing bullet-proof jackets, and certainly not cause to scare people into thinking that the area is dangerous and totally lawless.
I think my mantra has been proved again - PLEASE stop running down this area without foundation - it has consequences for us all - especially those trying to sell in difficult circumstances.
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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2012, 06:36:41 AM »

"I think my mantra has been proved again"

It certainly has
 

morning citizens   :tiphat:
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« Reply #53 on: June 22, 2012, 07:03:46 AM »

 This was on telly a couple of years ago ...The Crims used to get the cards and run them over a VHS  head onto a screen as the pin number was held on the tape of the reverse of the card,wether its changed with the modern cards in dont know.
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« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2012, 07:07:02 AM »

On most websites where you can buy things all you need is the card, the address it is attached to and a delivery address. You do not need the bank password unless that has been set up by the owner of the card. I think it is something like VISA Secure or something like that. 

Most people will have something in their bag or wallet that has their address on it. It is the pin number that would concern me. How they got the money out without it.
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« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2012, 08:13:44 AM »

The point I was making, Felipe, is that the thieves would have to provide a delivery address in order to receive the goods and surely that address would be easy to trace.
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« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2012, 09:25:04 AM »

Hola,

I'll ask again, does MankySlappers not already have security cameras in place, those big "ball" type on the ceilings!

lisa j :wave
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« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2012, 09:38:32 AM »

On most websites where you can buy things all you need is the card, the address it is attached to and a delivery address. You do not need the bank password unless that has been set up by the owner of the card. I think it is something like VISA Secure or something like that.  

Most people will have something in their bag or wallet that has their address on it. It is the pin number that would concern me. How they got the money out without it.

Visa Verified its called and it can be a pain in the butt when the info on the system is out of date and your name appears differently on new cards , my card now says Mr D S**** but the system says i have 2 middle names which i do however although they were included on my previous card they were wrong so they removed them altogether from my card and when i give them the correct ones they say i have them wrong and apparently i don't know my date of birth either . Im told that Visa Verified keeps different records from the credit card issuer .

Pin numbers are stored in the chip on the card and compared to the number you type into the card readers , its a simple process to read the card with ready available cheap equipment which is why CHIP and PIN has been shown to be a problem and banks have withdrawn from their old stance that if the pin was used then you either used it yourself or were negligent with it and allowed someone else to know it or acquire it and wouldn't refund losses . Provided there is other evidence that it was not the card holder they now make refunds even if the PIN was used in the transaction .

Many online companies now will only deliver to the address that the card holder has registered with the card company , a way around this for the card holder is to contact the card company and temporarily add an address for 24 hours or whatever time you request , if you access your card online you can simply change the billing address , order the goods then go back online and change it back again which is what i do regularly . There can also be problems if you have a card issued by a UK Bank with an address in another country , we have had this problem so many times we now changed our UK credit card form the address in Spain to a UK one , Vodafone UK refused to accept it for topping up our UK card as it was issued by Barclays Bank but our billing address was Spain .
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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2012, 10:23:45 AM »

Mercadona does have cameras, just not full coverage. I think they are in the booze and perfume isle.
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« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2012, 10:50:03 AM »

Hola,

Ooh!....booze and perfume, ...my favourite tipple!

P.Head :wave
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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2012, 11:05:48 AM »

I remember when PIN numbers came in we were told by the banks it would be impossible for anyone else to discover your PIN - famous last words.
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« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2012, 11:12:49 AM »

Even as they were being introduced one UK university cracked the system and showed how easy anyone with electronic knowledge could Read the PIN , they even demonstrated it but the Banks answer was that it was still safer than any existing system and although they accepted Fraud by that method would take place , statistical it was still the favoured option . They then knowing this went on to refuse any reimbursements where the PIN number had been used insisting that was the responsibility of the Card Holder .

Any one who allows their card to be in the hands of a stranger and out of sight is also vulnerable to cloning , it takes a second and everything on the magnetic strip is recorded and later transposed to a blank card , the blank is safe to use until the card holder sees his statement which in some cases could be weeks so i guess compared to that Chip and Pin is the better option .
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