Is planning permission necessary

[squid]

I live in arboleas and local police saw me cutting tiles for my bathroom and said I need a licence to tile my bathroom,no alterrations to the bathroom just like for like tiles,cost me 80euros at the town hall bloody rip off!

[byrney]

Thanks. As I said before it appears that some Council areas are hotter than others on planning issues!

[raysun]

Should have said , arboleas. It was some years ago  hence the 6 euro. It seemed a bit silly at the time but the town hall needed funds and a great job has been done since with funds from licences etc.
Regards
ray

[byrney]

Just out of interest Raysun, which Council area are you in?

[raysun]

I put some very simple cladding on my wall on the road to improve the look of the place and very quickly i was pulled up by the local police looking for licencia. Licence at the time cost 6 euro and the said go ahead and do it but get licence.  No big deal really.

[Fishnthenet]

They are not relaxed they are blatantly irresponsible! They are not able to give any licence for building works so take the stance of ´just do it´, you can see why the town is in such a mess with court proceeding and the only losers ´to-date´ (depending on latest judgements and its appeal) are the hundreds of homeowners who have lost their licences.
You would have thought they would now want to do things right and ensure that does not happen again.

If you do something that requires permission and you do not get it via the correct methods and get caught you can be sure Zurgena TH will play the innocent party and say we did not give permission. People need to be careful, painting a house or railings the same colour you will probably get away with, on the other hand, garages, pools, walls, extensions etc at some time have to be registered and getting back-dated licences is illegal. Now Zurgena would not do that would they!!!!!!!

[byrney]

I wouldn't worry Sharon.  It appears that Zurgena are rather more relaxed about the interpretation of building laws than Arboleas.

[Tetley]

Bob
the chap needs an established local spanish builder

first job is to make sure the build is on contreat pillars ie so he isnt taking a load bearing wall out on a no concreat pillar build,then once this is done ask local builder to pop into local town hall and see the pencil & paper chap thats responsible for building control.

if he isnt on concreat pillar build he should still be able to progres but by using an RSJ OR Heavey concreat vega thats stressed to the load ( i would use an rsj tho )

[Roger]

As I said the regulations are applied with varying degrees of vigilance.
The law states that you need a licence if you are going to change the appearance of your property.
You also need a licence if you are going to make a physical installation for whatever purpose.

In Arboleas some Spanish in the village have asked for permission to paint their house.
The British never do.
I have seen requests from Spanish to make internal alterations to kitchens or bathrooms.
The British do not, probably because the Spanish houses are in the village and there will be a lot of building material in the street.
We did have one case of a British owner  in the campo who was re building his kitchen with new tiles.
The police told him to get a licence. I suspect a neighbour complained otherwise why would the police have noticed.

[sharon123]

I went to zurgena town hall and asked if I could paint railings and house and was told I don't see why not. I said do I not need permission and I was told why would you need to permission it's your house unless you're going to do something really outrageous get on with it and paint it. So was it that that person didn't know their Job, am I going to be landed with the fine very soon.

[pannica]

HI ALL, I  am merely a humble retired Military Officer and Trauma Surgeon. Far better to obtain  Specialist opinions from those better fitted on the Forum. Thought Tetley might have responded so somewhat disappointed there. After all what are friends and colleagues there for??????
including, of course, the amazing professional Richard Miller of livethedream.
Bob and Sandra
Mojacar Playa and Puerto Lumbreras

over 45years in the building trade from cabinet maker through to project management

[Roger]

From the details you have give of the work, according to national urbaning building regs the answer is Yes.

However these regs are applied diferently, certainly for internal work.
The issue would be with removing a wall.

The ONLY place you will get an answer is your local Town hall architect.

[byrney]

Just go to your local Town Hall - they all apply different rules.

So best get it from the horses mouth rather than rely on dodgy comments on here.

[BobL]

HI ALL, I  am merely a humble retired Military Officer and Trauma Surgeon. Far better to obtain  Specialist opinions from those better fitted on the Forum. Thought Tetley might have responded so somewhat disappointed there. After all what are friends and colleagues there for??????
including, of course, the amazing professional Richard Miller of livethedream.
Bob and Sandra
Mojacar Playa and Puerto Lumbreras

[solarsolutionsalmeria]

i would have thought that you would know that bobL considering your affiliation with a certain "builder".
rule of thumb is, if you want to even paint the outside/inside of your house,concrete a pathway or build a new house you need planning permision.ive heard that in other parts of europe soon it will be mandatory if you want to scratch your own ass.
if not you could face big fines as the property owner and said "tradesman" if found out. up to 6k each party.so get a licence pay your dues and be legal...then no worries

[pannica]

Contact this person he speaks english he will give you the proper info and highly recommended iam not related but i used his services iam sure on facebook he would say yes or know and if you need any more help he is the person to ask not hearsay on the forum

https://www.facebook.com/daniel.gonzalezaranda.1 

[tandas]

Unless the property is owned by someone else I woukd have thought that you can do what you like to the inside within reason of course. But I expect if you increase the number of bedrooms it might affect the IBI due.  Or is this determined by square footage?  Anyone know the answer?

[BobL]

Hi All,
Asking for friend who has recently moved to a new townhouse in Los Gallardos. He wants to remove an interior wall & fit a new kitchen and wants to know if he needs Planning permission and if so the procedure. Thought to ask here. Many thanks,
Bob and Sandra