French Presidential election

[Angleseyite]

Wow, I think some Sudacrem is required for the sensitive spots. :57: :57:

[zilnor]

More like hanging, drawing and quartering , for  such a dreadful crime !  :57: :c002:

[temasek]

 :32: It seems to me that its a hanging offence ! 

[Jo-JoB]

Oh my Goodness ! I replied once to a comment about Brexit . OMG I had an opinion.
Tie me up to the rejas and give me 50 lashes !
:great:

Only 50!!!  :104:  :93:

[temasek]

Oh my Goodness ! I replied once to a comment about Brexit . OMG I had an opinion.
Tie me up to the rejas and give me 50 lashes !
:great:

[Angleseyite]

So the French presidential topic, like nearly every topic, becomes all about Brexit. How tiresome and boring it gets.   

Exactly.  :c002:

[zilnor]

John P . :clap: :clap:

[temasek]

lmj55  :bravo_2:
I am not a remoaner, nor an ostrich ...not even an uneducated person.
I simply voted to stay in the EU. That was just my opinion and I don't think I harped on ad infinitum about it.
I will not be delighted if it all goes pear shaped when we do leave.  :32:
Maybe we should resurrect the phrase 'turkeys voting for Christmas' .
:051bye:

[Roger]

The final financial settlement is of no importance.
What is important is what happens after Brexit.

This is just one of the effects of Brexit which the Government does not want to talk about.

This is very serious but where is the plan for post Brexit to secure UK Universities?

I know that my University, Imperial College, depends on overseas students, many from the EU, to keep it at the front of scientific research.
It also works in collaboration with European research institutes, using EU grants.
All this will end unless a plan is put in place.
But I see no signs that the Government has a clue.
All we hear is that we will get the best outcome for Britain.
In reality I do that think that Theresa May believes that, because before the referendum she said that Brexit would be a disaster.

I see big problems for the UK unless the Government gets a grip.
But now we have the diversion of a general election. More wasted time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-39082046

http://www.bbc.com/news/education-38587765

[zilnor]

I think you will find that most  of us have said that successive governments over the last forty  or fifty years have allowed too many idle people,  homegrown and imported to make a career out of the benefit system.  No, that is not the fault of the EU.

MEPs are elected yes, but the Commissioners like Juncker are not elected by the people. Take a look at how much they earn and their expense accounts.

I have asked this question before. The UK has contributed to the EUs assets which are considerable. Do you think our share of these assets should be included in the final Brexit deal ? I do. In accountancy, assets are included on the balance sheet , and in many cases the assets held are what make the business profitable.

[felipe]

Another example of soft touch Britain. Showing that it is successive governments that are weak or scared of upsetting the Chinese, or both.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/eu-to-slap-britain-with-a-%E2%82%AC2bn-fraud-claim-bill/ar-BBAjmk7?li=AAmiR2Z&ocid=spartandhp

[felipe]

Lynden, I have not seen opne post yet that states that they want the UK to fail. In fact quite the opposite.
As Roger has stated, there is nothing wrong in debating what may go wring for the UK and how it can be fixed. but you brexits refuse to have a proper discussion about it.
Such as the constant ignoring of two facts, That the EU is governed by unelected bureaucrats, Untrue, MEPs are elected. That the EU is to blame for the mass influx of benefit scroungers. False. That is because the UK government have a crazy benefit system where they are happy to pay all and sundry for not ever paying into the system.
I have asked these questions several times of the Brexiteers but not once has any of you come back with a response.

[Tetley]

They should have known,
but there are sone people who still think that the world owes the UK a favour.
What I do not understand is that now the UK is leaving the EU some people want the EU to fail.

Anyway I have just been reading in the Spanish press that to become a Spanish citizen after the UK leaves the EU all that I will have to show is that I have been living in Spain for 10 years and that I have assimilated. This is a simple test which I have just read. The only problem is that I do not know the name of Spanish celebs, but an hour with Hola should sort that.

That it Rog... the rule" Brittanias Govi" are seen as  the pimple of the arse of the EU.......least we lived it dear wile it was the best,apparently the French chap was in Banking....great news for London,ie he wont want more banks Cluttering up Paris ........

[Roger]

If the EU does well it will be good for the UK, and vice versa.
But to want to discuss the problems which the UK will face post Brexit is not wanting to see the UK fail, it is pointing out the problems which will have to be addressed.
It seems to me that there is a reluctance to have that discussion.
Why?
How will the UK address the problem of the financial institutions deciding to move part of their operation to the EU?
What will be the financial loss to the UK economy?
How will UK beef producers manage to export to the EU in the future?
What will be the effect on UK inflation when there are import tariffs?

Asking these questions is not wanting the UK to fail, it is simply pointing out that unless these questions are asked then there will be no plan to face up to the issues.
Head in the sand will cause more problems than facing up to the problems before they happen.

In my opinion the UK Government does not want to admit that these problems will exist. They know that they will, which is why there is a general election now, to avoid one in 2020.

[Lynden]

Imj52, you may want the UK to be successful despite the vote to leave, but you are in a small minority of remainers. You only have to read some of the posts on here to see that.
It's almost as if there's a spiteful tendency to say....we lost the vote but we were right and anything that makes extra difficulties for the UK ( perhaps the election of Macron) is seized upon as a prop to their point of view.
You are right, enjoy your life especially in Arbiland as you really do have your cake.
Whatever happens in the EU / UK debate it won't really affect ordinary people half as much as some would have you believe.

[lmj52]

The EU is a bit like the Emperor in the fairy tale.......one day everyone will be like the little boy who points out that the Emporer isn't wearing any clothes. It's not the Brexiteers that are deluded.
The French will be taking a real punt on either of the 2 candidates. The decision for them is are we French first or do we keep suckling on the EU teat.
It doesn't matter who the French elect. After all the remoaners on here have been delighting in difficulties for the UK... so hope Macron will make it worse. It won't the UK will do what is necessary regardless of who runs France.

Lynden
You are so wrong, as a remainer I want the UK to be successful! I have no delight in any difficulty the UK may be suffering. Where the hell did you get that from?
Just shows you Brexit people have no idea. We need the UK to be stronger not worse off after Brexit
I think Macron will win, but past performance of voters has shown we need to expect the unexpected.
In the UK things will get a lot worse for some time. Tax and price increases will follow.
Enjoy life whilst you can

[Lynden]

The EU is a bit like the Emperor in the fairy tale.......one day everyone will be like the little boy who points out that the Emporer isn't wearing any clothes. It's not the Brexiteers that are deluded.
The French will be taking a real punt on either of the 2 candidates. The decision for them is are we French first or do we keep suckling on the EU teat.
It doesn't matter who the French elect. After all the remoaners on here have been delighting in difficulties for the UK... so hope Macron will make it worse. It won't the UK will do what is necessary regardless of who runs France.

[zilnor]

Johnhc :hee20hee20hee: :hee20hee20hee:

[johnhc]

Would love Le Pen to win but I think it's as likely as somebody like Donald Trump becoming President of the USA !!!

[mel20]

Le Pen has very little chance ...Is it the end of so called populism in Europe ...I think now that if macron becomes president the UK better look out he is a staunch European and as Tetley has said they will scew the little Englanders to the floor

[casablanca]

What I do not understand is that now the UK is leaving the EU some people want the EU to fail.

That is what all the brexiteers are hoping for, it then, somehow, justifies their position :c002:

[Roger]

They should have known,
but there are sone people who still think that the world owes the UK a favour.
What I do not understand is that now the UK is leaving the EU some people want the EU to fail.

Anyway I have just been reading in the Spanish press that to become a Spanish citizen after the UK leaves the EU all that I will have to show is that I have been living in Spain for 10 years and that I have assimilated. This is a simple test which I have just read. The only problem is that I do not know the name of Spanish celebs, but an hour with Hola should sort that.

[Tetley]

If Marine wins, then its another nail in the coffin of the EU, Britain has applied to leave, France is thinking about it so the only answer is to scupper Marine's chances, when will people wake and realise we need change. Who would of thought Trump would be in the White house, JC potentially PM, Le Penn could win
Mike

wich she wont... and the German election elects either Shultz or Merkell our Little Englanders & rule Britaniers are going to get screwed to the floor....by a newly envigarated EU  on a fedral over drive mission....

but yer all new that dint we.... :17:   :57:

[tintin]

If Marine wins, then its another nail in the coffin of the EU, Britain has applied to leave, France is thinking about it so the only answer is to scupper Marine's chances, when will people wake and realise we need change. Who would of thought Trump would be in the White house, JC potentially PM, Le Penn could win
Mike

[Lynden]

Macron is definitely a federalist. The French have always had the best EU deal and they know it. To leave would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas. Marine would definitely set the leave the EU train in motion.

[KJH3]

Macron will be a hard liner for the EU. He will not do the UK any favours, thats what the French voted for not Le Pens anti EU stance. . I think thats why the pound took a very sudden dip last night as the results were coming through

[zilnor]

I doubt if Marine will win the second round. The results are an indication that the French people want change  !

[Lynden]

Looks like the also rans are working together already to keep Marine out.
Hollande's socialists were destroyed.

[zilnor]

Marine le Pen, through to the scond round.,

[zilnor]

Mimosa,
Looks like she will. But will she win the second round ?
As I keep saying on many other subjects, time will tell !!

[mimosas]

Marine I hope

[zilnor]

Marine Le Pen or Macron  in the first round. Who do you think will win ??